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From: guest , 202 months, post #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqBKFxKT6jo

nice XD

From: guest (Mr X) , 202 months, post #2

Didn't work . Said 'malformed video'? That's a new one

From: guest (Valkan) , 202 months, post #3

Works fine for me.
It seems nice. Has a bunch of transformations of Genie and Jasmine from the Aladin series.

From: Bodyswap1 , 202 months, post #4

I would be careful if a genie ever got a cold around me.

From: guest (kyle) , 202 months, post #5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBNOTitN6x8

From: guest (Dragoniade) , 202 months, post #6

I see a ban coming!

From: guest , 202 months, post #7

But it still has your logo on it. Doesn't it link back to your site?

From: guest (Dragoniade) , 202 months, post #8

I see no mention where the clips was taken from. The logo identify the clips as my capture/editing/encoding/posting, but no way to trace it back to the website. And the subject tags are also removed from the video when posted on you tube (the tags link back to the site and give information about the show and the episode).

And the person hasn't mentioned the site at all.

From: guest (passerby) , 202 months, post #9

Dragoniade, you don't own the rights to Alladin.

From: guest (Dragoniade) , 202 months, post #10

So, you're a supporter to art theif Passerby?
You think everyone's effort can be ripped of for your sole pleasure?

If people want to see THAT clip, they can go to my site, rather than cash on MY effort.
It's called respect, something you seem to be missing.

From: guest (devon) , 202 months, post #11

then wat if he mentions ur website at least

From: guest (Dragoniade) , 202 months, post #12

He has been notified Monday evening so no action has been taken yet except disabling download for the time being. I'm waiting until Friday to see if I get feedback real from him before doing anything more.

From: guest (john) , 202 months, post #13

welll he just put theshadow lord inc credit on the video

From: guest (passerby) , 202 months, post #14

"So, you're a supporter to art theif Passerby?
You think everyone's effort can be ripped of for your sole pleasure?"

Why not? You take a small clip from a show, add a watermark and claim ownership like you actually had a hand in its production, so the rules of production are obviously rather lenient to you. You talk about effort, you watch tv or Tivo it so you can record it and claim it.

From: guest (randy) , 202 months, post #15

"rather than cash on MY effort".....cash? wat is he gettin money from youtube now?

From: guest (Dragoniade) , 202 months, post #16

@Passerby
At least, I PAID to have the original content. And guess what, I never said I made the series or that I work for Disney. I said I made the clips, which is much different.

And you definitely don't know what you're talking aboug Passerby about what effort it take to maintain such a site.

@randy
Cashing on someone's else work is not necessarily about money. It can be money, yes, but it can be any kind of reward: exposure, fanart, support, pub money from you tube, etc.

@john
Yes, he did now.

From: guest (passerby) , 202 months, post #17

Someone who takes the work of someone else and posts it online is an art thief. That much I can agree with. What I'm wondering is how that's so different from what you do.

You're cashing in on the effort of someone else, something you had no hand in producing, yet are claiming art theft when someone takes it. Having a website in this case is no different than putting it up on Youtube, it is no different. You made the clips, big deal, you take the work someone one else did, the months of animation, the story boarding, the voice acting, the editing, and rip 30 seconds of it and put it on your site.

Now, no one who wants it for that clip is going to buy it if they can look at your site and get it. I don't see credits beyond the name of the show and episode, no acknowledgment of those involved and certainly no information on how to purchase or compensate the workers behind it.

You can sit there and play the victim and whine "art theft, leechers" all you want, but there's a reason that people don't buy it. To bitch and moan that your "art" is being stolen is not only hypocritical, but an insult to every artist who really has had their work taken without their consent.

If you had just complained that people should indicate where they got it from if they repost a tv clip, I'd agree. But to claim art theft is asinine, someone is posting one clip of something you took from somewhere else and posted on your site to try to draw in page views, donations, whatever have you.

From: guest (Dragoniade) , 202 months, post #18

http://www.shadowlordinc.com/site.guideline

Copyright:

Except for video clips, video previews, artworks, comics displays , characters and books exerpts all contents are copyrighted to Dragoniade and in certain extends, Stonegate. All rights reserved.

And yes, I'm complaining because the person never asked permission to repost the clip nor did he linked back to the site.
As a result, this thread was linking to his clips and not my original clips.
I called him a thief for the simple reason he clearly agreed, when he subscribed and downloaded the clips, not to repost them. Which he didn't.

People wonder why there isn't that much original video archive. That's because people who start automatically get copied by lazier people. No wonder the only 2 site, mine and dutchman, don't get updated often.
The second we do, someone else try to steal the spotlight.

And regarding my 'art' being stolen, those are your words, not mine. Why to leeches has to distort reality every time they want to win an argument. I said my clips, not art. I'm not holding full episode on the site. If yo want to compare apple with apple, my site would be closer to a thumbnail gallery referencing artworks done by an artists.
As far as I know, posting thumbnail is not considered art thievery, while posting the full art is. In my case, I took a sample of the original content, and posted it. In his case, he took the whole thing and posted it. He didn't sampled my sample, he copied it fully.

If this thread had had both links to begin with, I wouldn't have made much of a fuse. But considering there's quite few clips on his you tube account (I'm not referring to this single link posted here), it's a matter for me to make a fuse.

From: guest (max) , 202 months, post #19

man how about we just drop this whole situation i mean he did end up crediting your work and no one really wants to see your website clos down so lets just nt make a big deal about it im sure this wnt happn again since now that evryone kws wat a big this is turning into

From: guest (Swiftner) , 202 months, post #20

I aggree with Dragoniade. I post original clips from time to time upon request and it requires quite a bit of work to firstly find the content which can take months if at all. Then convert it into a form that can be edited. Then lastly the time it takes to edit, export and upload the clip. In addition having to check the clips lengnth and content so that it falls under fair use.

If it were not for people like Dragoniade giving up their time, that could be spent elsewhere, we would only have a fraction of the content available we have now.

I'm sorry but if you've ever given up a sunny afternoon to sit in front of a computer screen just so someone else can enjoy the fruit of your work you would understand.

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