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From: guest
, 183 months, post #321 |
Oh darn! No more updates saying "just a few more days"? Crap!
Its time to move on folks. Forget Fictionmania. All good things
come to an end, sooner or later. The writers will gravitate to
another site in due time. Hopefully, that site will appreciate its
readers.
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From: guest
, 183 months, post #322 |
Post #321 cont.
For all you "enablers" out there, let me save you some time,
Whine, whine, whine.
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From: guest (wellll)
, 183 months, post #323 |
thanks alot mr.ram I already follow some of those, you may want to
check out yiffstar.com its got a good orginization and a sizeable
number of tg stories as well
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From: guest (guest)
, 183 months, post #324 |
Alright everyone... no worries about lost stories... when this
whole issue started, I made it a point to download every story from
Fictionmania (spread out, of course, so as not to eat bandwidth),
and I have managed to archive them all. I've been holding out on
doing anything because, of course, if Fictionmania comes back up, I
don't want to step on them, but, if they do not come back up, I
will put the stories into a torrent (No, I will NOT rapidshare or
megaupload). So Fictionmania, if you want to maintain your
exclusivity with these stories, let's see something meaningful get
done here.
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From: MissSaraJames
, 183 months, post #325 |
Guest #324, the rights for these stories belongs to the authors,
not to FictionMania. While some stories have specific disclaimers
about rights to redistribute them, many do not.
I obviously can't speak for any other authors, but you very
specifically do **NOT** have my permission to repost or distrubute
my stories. FictionMania's Taskforce has always been great about
pulling down stories if the author requests it. I hope you show the
same respect for the authors and honor my wishes.
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From: guest (guest from post 324)
, 183 months, post #326 |
MissSaraJames,
Alright... you have a point. I will not take action. I just hope we
don't all come to regret a future where the already disparate and
broken patchwork network of these stories continues to break apart.
Fictionmania was at least a relatively rock stable and substantial
offering.
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From: MissSaraJames
, 183 months, post #327 |
Oh, and one other quick point. For all those about to argue that
I'm selfish, an egomanic or otherwise not nice for not wanting some
anonymous person to make my stories available by torrent, I want to
tell you you're missing the bigger picture.
I posted my stories on FM knowing that there might be some that
would respost them without permission. If it happens in this case
... oh well. I hope it doesn't, but I recognize I don't really have
control over that at this point. But if I find out my stories are
being redistributed without my permission, or if they end up behind
a wall on some pay site, or someone else claims them as their own,
all that means is that I am unlikely to post new content on ANY
free site in the future.
Free fiction and art isn't really free. The artists that make it
spend time - and often a great deal of worry, frustration, and even
money for tools and supplies - to make their ideas a reality. If
you don't respect that, if you step on the artist's toes, good luck
getting them to produce more content for you to consume.
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From: MissSaraJames
, 183 months, post #328 |
Guest #324, #326, Thank You. Please know my second post isn't aimed
at you. I'm just anticipating the trolls. :-)
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From: guest (guest from 324 and 326)
, 183 months, post #329 |
No worries. It's a legitimate point I didn't think of, and I'm glad
you brought it to my attention before I started a giant boondoggle
with a bunch of authors. Of course you have the right to dictate
how your work is distributed in whole; a torrent of the site
certainly wouldn't count as fair use under any reasonable
interpretation.
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From: guest (T_M)
, 183 months, post #330 |
Dear Guest 324,
Did you also save the stories in foreign languages? I wrote 3
stories in German on fictionmania and didn't save them on my hard
drive (yeah I know, not that clever...). If yes, could I contact
you somehow? I'd love to have them on my drive again...
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From: guest (guest from post 331)
, 183 months, post #331 |
Part of the beauty of a torrent is that no one will really be able
to track it anyway, so I say put it up. I'll help seed it
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From: guest (guest from post 332)
, 183 months, post #332 |
It's not like the Task Force will be able to stop it. They can't
even get organized enough to get their own website running again.
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From: guest (Guest 324)
, 183 months, post #333 |
Yeah, I know it's not trackable, but that's not really the point...
I'm not a writer, but I've created things in the past that I know I
wouldn't want being distributed in ways I didn't approve of. It
wouldn't be right. Sorry to get everyone's hopes up; but I wasn't
looking at it from the authors' perspective at first.
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From: guest
, 183 months, post #334 |
I really love this post!
I think this video just about sums it all up. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r94AJzJZZaU
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From: guest
, 183 months, post #335 |
It wouldn't be right?
You and I surely have slightly different views on what is right.
The stories were meant to be shared. Fictionmania isn't sharing
them anymore. I would argue that it would be the morally superior
action to make a torrent.
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From: guest
, 183 months, post #336 |
It's been posted on rapidshare before.
I think the milk has already been spilt.
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From: guest (Farathoom)
, 183 months, post #337 |
To guest post #335
The stories were posted by the authors. The distribution of those
stories is up to the authors. It is their decision whether they
want them to be republished and where.
And you have decided that it is 'morally superior' to ignore the
wishes of the authors just because you happen to want to? That it's
right just because you happen to want it, and anyone else is wrong
if they won't do what you want? You can use someone else's creation
against their wishes just by screaming "I WANT IT NOW" like a small
child in a tantrum?
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From: guest
, 183 months, post #338 |
I WANT IT NOW!
No one will be able to stop my tyrannical plan to pirate a bunch of
freely-distributed internet stories. My reign of terror begins now!
In all serious, I think any author complaining about it needs to
get over themselves. When you post a story on the internet, this is
what happens. Be flattered that anyone thought highly enough of
your work to want to distribute it to others.
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From: guest (Farathoom)
, 183 months, post #339 |
Publishing something on the Internet does not remove all rights in
it. The work should not be distributed if the author has said they
do not wish it to be distributed. Why should they be 'flattered'
that someone considers their wishes to be worthless? That someone
thinks they should have no say at all in what happens to their
personal creations?
In the case of some of the stories on fictionmania the author has
made it very clear that they do not want it posted to other sites.
They have made their work freely available to you on that
condition. To 'repay' this by ignoring that author's clear wishes
with the 'justification' of 'you can't stop me doing it' is,
besides anything else, bloody damned rude.
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From: guest (Forestier)
, 183 months, post #340 |
You can repost my stories. They were in French. But if I don't like
your site, I may recall them.
But guest 335 was right: stories were posted there to be shared.
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