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From: guest (Pcat) , 3 months, post #21

De Serpentis Munere
I’ve never seen or found a few length version of this other then trailers.
Anyone have a full copy or link?

From: guest , 3 months, post #22

https://youtu.be/WPQdv-J29XA?si=sJgZRs-PUjyQMyYS

From: guest (Pcat) , 3 months, post #23

Thank you post #22
However, it is to the trailer and not the full movie

From: guest , 3 months, post #24

Here is another one.
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Miss Osbourne

From: Bodyswap1 , 3 months, post #25

Anybody know where I can watch De Serpentis Munere - The Serpent's Gif movie? Can’t find any sites online to watch it.

From: guest (Guest00) , 3 months, post #26

So thanks for the above who shared the YouTube trailer, the comments section on that link provides some valuable insights into the status of production for The Serpent's Gift. Here's the comment from the director director, Roberto Leoni:

"Purtroppo in Italia ancora non è uscito anche perché deve essere ancora doppiato... Quando ci sarà una data di uscita sarà cura della distribuzione darne notizia."

Now here's it translated in English:

"Unfortunately in Italy it has not yet come out also because it has yet to be dubbed... When there will be a release date, it will be the responsibility of the distribution to inform."

So this can lead us to assume a few points:

1) This is the director's own pet project. Roberto shot all this back in 2017-2019, and now he has no distributor for it.

2) It's shot in English, so there isn't even an Italian release. It would be more successful if he had tried to go the Indie scene in his own country, but for some reason, Roberto decided to shoot the whole movie in English primarily.

3) There's no English distributor willing to pick up this movie. So it's in development (or distribution) hell.

4) We'll likely never see this movie released, not unless Roberto post-production dubs everything in Italian and gets it picked up by a local distributor.

From: Bodyswap1 , 3 months, post #27

Well that's a let down.

From: guest (Guest00) , 3 months, post #28

Hey Bodyswap1,

We could try to convince the director to just publish it up on Vimeo or something. At this point, self-publishing is the best bet for us to ever see this movie. And most Indie studios opt for some form of Vimeo release nowadays, since Indie Distributors are having a heck of a time with this economy.

Anyway, Roberto seems pretty approachable, as he answers comments on his YT channel, so it's not of the cards, if our community shows interest in his project and petition for him to Self-Publish. (He probably knows English, so no Italian required to talk to him, seeing as he shot his whole movie in English, and his IMDb shows he'd been involved with Hollywood in the past)

Note: To be frank, Roberto's getting on the old side, so I do worry this could end up never seeing the light of day, if he simply sits on it and waits for a distributor.

From: guest (Olly) , 3 months, post #29

The best male to female Jekyll & Hyde movie EVER: "Dr Jekyll & Sister Hyde"

From: Bodyswap1 , 3 months, post #30

We could but I ont know how.

From: guest (Guest00) , 2 months, post #31

Well Bodyswap1, it doesn't have to be difficult. Just some communication. It all starts by leaving a comment on that YouTube trailer, it's the director's personal channel.

Anyways, this is an option open to anyone who really wants to see the public release of The Serpent's Gift. If you really want it, just go for it.

From: Bodyswap1 , 2 months, post #32

I will leave a comment.

From: guest (Guest00) , 2 months, post #33

Mm, good luck. If there's a favorable response, please let us know the details!

From: guest (Pcat) , 2 months, post #34

Guess00
If you have a link .. yes please

From: guest (Guest00) , 2 months, post #35

Not sure what you're referring to Pcat. If you mean for Roberto's YT channel, it's already been posted above. I don't want to spam it on the thread.

From: guest (Guest00) , 1 months, post #36

Okay this is starting to tick me off. There's even clips of Serpent's Gift posted up online (you recognize the girl here as the actress playing the hyde role) See here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elbrtcWUQG0

How is there no news about how to pick up for purchase or rent? -_-

From: guest (Guest00) , 1 months, post #37

Well there's good news, after getting so pissed off, I spent a few hours trekking Serpent's Gift. I actually found a streaming copy (but it's in Polish). Look up " Dar węża " which is the Polish title (sorry no english).

Out of respect for this site, I will not post the stream here, but here's proof of my claim about the Polish release. It won't take you much to find a copy under that title if you really want to bother:

https://www.filmweb.pl/film/Dar+w%C4%99%C5%BCa-2021-10021427

If you're gonna try it, use the Yandex search engine (it treks down Polish stuff easier than a western engine like Google). Also just make sure to have your anti-virus, adblocker, and noscript extension actively and running. Polish sites just seem to scream malware.

In summary, this whole thing is crazy, as the original filmed language is in English, and the director has worked in Hollywood before too. Guess it's cause the production studio doesn't know how to make good deals.

Lastly, I don't think this'll ever be released in English as last time it had a release was in 2021 for the Polish, so there you go. We're done with this rabbit hole...unless they ever get around to releasing the English version. Later!

From: guest (Guest00) , 1 months, post #38

Okay, I lied, one more addition for the legal streaming (this is on YouTube under the polish title). Movix Channel is part of a Polish Media Group (so it's legit and not a pirate) associated with several production houses, so this was likely picked up under a bundle license (lucky for us it was uploaded just a month ago for legal streaming to YouTube).

The catch is, you need to use a Polish proxy or VPN to be able to view it, geo-restriction applies. Ah, and I will add that about 2 minutes are shaved off to comply with YouTube's standards for acceptable content (so no nudity or softcore petting). Here you go, legally watch the stream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ml9MwORcCI

From: guest (hora) , 1 months, post #39

Thanks for the link. But I have to ask, from what you saw, were there any breast expansions, hair growth or anything that had a morphing sequence in the movie? And would you see in that youtube link or would there be more in another link?

From: guest (Guest00) , 1 months, post #40

Honestly? No SFX aside from some augmented reality visuals. There's a promising scene where there's live camera footage of the first TF, but then it cuts off in static and poof the Eve/Hyde character is just there.

Serpent's Gift Review:
TLDR: This is barely even a movie, it is cut together so poorly I cannot even piece together what happened at which scene (it hops back and forth in time, and there's the matter of what exactly is the Eve.

Here's three points to take away home from this experience:

1) What is the Eve (Hyde) character exactly? If you're looking for a dark metaphysical exploration of the anima, this isn't it. It is metaphysical, but it isn't dark. The director definitely wanted a hyde experience, and you can see a glimmer of that in the last 20 minutes of the movie, where she starts acting like a hyde.
she only has three lines in the whole film, and that is only when the Jekyll persona is in control. I personally find it distasteful that the Hyde doesn't take full charge of the situation. The magic water potion is meant to make something better, unlock potential or something. But instead you have a woman who is "newly born" with child-like innocence, which if you ask me is a big turn off to have the naked and very flirty Eve act like a 5 year old...what is this movie even trying to accomplish making a grown woman act like that while also doing the sexy time. Sheesh... -_-

2) The editor's room were on crack or this didn't even have an editor, everything is cut confusingly, time flows like a pretzel...good luck deciphering how the story flows. Even without wanting the dialogue, there should be a certain logical framework progressing time forward, the continuity is shot up the crapper. Here's one evidence on how it's poorly cut, and not just an artsy choice. The Eve-Hyde is always shown wearing some kinda trenchcoat, well the jekyll character never wears it except for one scene (which I assume was originally the director's origin TF scene for Hyde), he wears it for about a third of the scene, then poof a hard cut happens and it just vanishes like it was never even there. The continuity is atrocious here, and it is hidden mainly in major scene changes, but once you see the little changes within the same scene with disappearing clothing during mid-scene, you know there was development hell behind the scenes (and no editor).

3) Overly complicated metaphysical themes over actual narrative or story progession. In this film there is one evil enemy, the big bad Church (something I noticed a lot of Indie Italian movies love to criticize, whether it is adult content or just regular indies)....and I dunno why, but the priests are always shown as powerful and framed as scheming or cunning. Now they try to be clever about it by leaning into esoteric philosophy that you wouldn't know about unless you deliberated went to college for it, or looked up cause you are into that esoteric stuff.

Lemme cut it short for you, the story is literally sacrficed to depict Eve-hyde as some Gnostic Divine spirit or something (at least in the beginning and middle as the embodiment of Sophia-Eve (the divine feminine) the imagery associated to her is from Gnostic Christianity, in which there is a divinity known as Sophia who incarnates as Eve (thus to most Early Christians, Eve is like the avatar of divine feminity. Otherwise this movie makes no sense if it didn't rely on some esoteric Gnosticism (because she's like a spirit that mantles over/possesses the character through radiation water.

I dunno, but I'm glad my comparative religion studies in college is finally paying off, I can fortunately pick up on the cues here. So yeah, Sophia, a goddess of wisdom is possessing the male lead, because of radiation water or something.

But then here's the whiplash for me, this Sophia-Eve isn't depicted as a wise or powerful goddess/demigod, but like a weak child. She almost gets killed and raped for being so freaking clueless. She just waltzes around Rome half naked and then some thug or another wants to assault her. And yet this depiction of perfected femininity is also supposed to be diabolical (with the serpent motif), which isn't Satan but Yahwah as the Demiurge (The Craftsman of the Cosmos). The Demiurge is a Serpent with a lion's head (more Gnostic interpretations again) and the Demiurge is a mind-born spawn of Sophia. It just occurred to me that Sophia may allude to Athena, which is earliest depictions associated Athena to the serpent (Athena is the Goddess of Wisdom), so Eve is some kinda Christian-Pagan hybrid motif through this serpent iconography)

Bottomline: Eye-Hyde is not a true hide, except for the last 20 minutes of the movie. I want to see the originally intended vision of the director, you can see in the trailers some scene from the initial transformation -- now that looked awesome!!

As for the actual movie, even without the ability to understand the dialogue (as it's in Polish), there is very little plot and a lot of complicated motifs and themes.

This is the worst way an art film can develop (and you can tell the director was having a fight with the studios for this film, it is so disjointed and poorly cut together in the editor's room.

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