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From: guest (Bud)
, 91 months, post #1 |
deal with? What struggles and adjustments do you like to see a
character that's been swapped or transformed into the opposite
gender deal with? Do you like seeing a guy in a woman's body
struggle with the physical aspects like (periods, sitting down to
pee, clothes, loss of physical strength, being a hottie) of being a
woman or the emotional, mental, and societal aspects of being a
woman?
I personally love seeing a guy struggle with the physical aspects
especially with wearing women's clothes and shoes. It's kind of
hot. I love seeing a male character feel uncomfortable in a woman's
body especially when the male is a womanizer and manwhore.
A good example of what I'm talking about is in Please Come Back
Mister. I loved how there was a running joke/gag in which Hong
Nan/Gi-Tak would dig his panties out of his butt when he was
walking while wearing a dress and pantyhose. I also loved how
Gi-Tak was a tough macho guy in his past life but was okay with
getting pretty and dressed up in short tight dresses, pantyhose,
and heels as Hong Nan.
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From: guest (leon)
, 91 months, post #2 |
Basically, anything involving how their new self is perceived by
the people around them, and how they struggle with finding what
works and what doesn't for his or her new identity. I love reading
about how they adjust themselves and learn to play their new
"strengths" where they simply couldn't before their change. It can
involve a promotion/demotion of their current status and how they
have to cope with their new position.
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From: guest
, 91 months, post #3 |
I think my sheer hunger to become a real woman makes me imagine
myself in the character's situation and not want her struggles to
be too bad, just as I'd want things to go smoothly for a newly
female me. Can't sympathize with her typical desire to change back,
of course, but do want her to have a proper new identity as her new
self, just as I'd want one.
I suspect that my ideal guy-becomes-gal movie wouldn't appeal to a
wide audience.
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From: guest (KJ)
, 91 months, post #4 |
Their now having a mind being washed with female hormones, and how
they deal with different thoughts, views, attractions, etc.
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From: Monsta
, 91 months, post #5 |
I enjoy the idea of a couple having to adjust to one or both of the
partners being altered in some way, swapping related or otherwise.
Having the couple's default physical attraction erased or distorted
and then seeing them succeeding or failing to re-establish intimacy
given their new situation is fascinating. It's an exploration of
human attraction and emotional bonding, using methods not
attainable in real life.
Imagine a young 20 something heterosexual couple where the male was
swapped with a 38 year old woman. How would the couple move past
this? Could they move past it?
If they remained together is it proof our love for each other is
more significant than our biology? If they broke up does it mean we
are merely acting out embellishments of our basic reproductive
instincts? In any case, focusing on a relationship in this way,
seeing it in that light makes you think about things you wouldn't
otherwise be able to ponder in normal circumstances. And thinking
in a way that's well outside your normal daily experience is always
refreshing.
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From: guest (powerfuldarkmagic)
, 91 months, post #6 |
Monsta, I love your comments.
I really enjoying reading stories where a happy, healthy
relationship is challenged due to transformation. It's interesting
to explore the complex link between love, physical attraction, and
societal pressures when someone is transformed.
Do you have any story recommendations?
(By the way, "A Chosen Fate" is one of my favorite all-time
stories! I hope you'll be posting more stories in the near future.)
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From: Forestier
, 91 months, post #7 |
To get surprised every morning, as she forgot being a woman during
sleep.
Not to be taken seriously anymore by coworkers.
To get looked at by men...
To get remarks on her look and to have to adapt...
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From: guest (Dee Cypher)
, 91 months, post #8 |
I write a lot about the frustration of having a less-athletic body.
Something about conceding to a softer, curvier, older body piques
my interest. I've often thought about why this interests me so
much, and all I can come up with is that the shock of the change
impacts not only a person's physical sense, but also their entire
identity.
That is to say, two teenagers switching places is shocking.
However, a teenager switching with an older adult changes not only
their physical body, but also forces the individual to cope with a
entire new set of social rules, cues, and relationships.
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From: Forestier
, 91 months, post #9 |
To guest (Dee Cypher):
A woman can be as athletic as a man. Not as strong, though, but
strength isn't everything.
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From: guest (Damn the Dam)
, 91 months, post #10 |
To Forestier:
Dee didn't mention about gender being the main determinant of
athleticism though. Noted the word "older" is included, so he is
just laying out his specific preference for swap, not that he think
all swap stories ought to be be like that. Just like if I say that
I like swap stories between a fat rich guy and a skinny poor guy,
that doesn't mean I think all rich guys are fat or all poor guys
are skinny, it just mean that I like swap between fat rich guy and
skinny poor guy.
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From: DB Cooper
, 91 months, post #11 |
Grappling with the idea that they are not only now attractive to
men...but they might not totally mind.
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From: Weirdoid
, 91 months, post #12 |
For me I like the following.
1. Struggling with the awkwardness of a body whose movements and
form does not match their instincts and conditioned responses.
2. Struggle to win back their old life regardless of body so they
can truly be themselves
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From: guest (EmmaFrost)
, 91 months, post #13 |
I like how a character come to terms with his new body. Afterall,
he's switching into a weaker and softer body with new body parts.
The most obvious one would be the change of sexual equipment. I
don't kow about others but i'd be pretty freaked about it. It's no
longer an outie. Everytime you pee, you're reminded of the fact
that you're different from the boys now. In addition to that, a
character still being attracted to women but having no means to
have straight sex with them is an aspect I find interesting. Also,
being forced to follow gender norms and struggling to accept them
is one of the topics I like too. For example: acting and dressing
feminine for special occasions and stuff.
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From: guest (Bud)
, 91 months, post #14 |
I forgot to mention this but one thing I like a person to deal with
is struggling with mannerisms and posture. I also like it when
someone else that knows about the swap or transformation tells the
person that they need to act the part i.e. if you're in a woman's
body and wearing a short dress or skirt you need to cross your legs
when you sit down. Another thing would be is someone telling them
that they have to use the women's restroom because they are now a
woman.
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From: guest (Superdude)
, 91 months, post #15 |
I like to see the swapped characters struggle with the change of
their sexual preference. How in the beginning they struggle to
fight it before finally accept it that they are now attracted not
to the opposite gender of their original body, but to the opposite
gender of their current body.
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From: guest (DK)
, 91 months, post #16 |
I would agree, Superdude. I prefer the hero to undergo that sort of
inner dilemma. Too often in movies the heroes never really face it
(like Tim and Sally in Turnabout), or MS Hyde in both the Hammer
and the Sean Young movie (in these the inner change is instant and
complete, and very uninteresting). Cleo/Leo does the inner change
pretty well. But we don't get an idea what the hero in "Identity
Theft" feels; her inner life seems to be avoided. In "Goodbye
Charlie" and the Philippine "Lalola," the early inner change is
forced by magic. Lalola does it well, but GC cops out.
It's a cliche, in this tiny genre, if two people swap with each
other and then fall in love. I don't see this as logical; they
would carry too much emotional baggage to make this work. I don't
recall a film where the swapped girl and guy do something more
logical, like getting it on with some new people. It would be a
fresher idea.
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From: guest (asdfghjkl7298)
, 91 months, post #17 |
only interest is regarding sex and how the recently changed is
fighting new urges before giving in and loving the new feeling.
Don't care about clothes, shoes, social standing or how they pee...
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From: guest (Frosty)
, 91 months, post #18 |
I think I'm a fan of when the possessor makes changes to the host,
making it so their behavior and even outlook on life is completely
different after the swap.
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From: guest (guest)
, 91 months, post #19 |
If the swapped man is a "regular type" guy I think struggle with
clothing is a must. Especially if they are in a position of having
to dress in items totally unfamiliar to them.
Bras, hose, skirts etc. The basic fit and restrictions of these
types of item would be a big adjustment to a man who has spent a
lifetime in variations of easy items like jeans and t-shirts.
Walking in heels for prolonged periods would be next to impossible
without a lot of practice. The shift in centre of gravity would
make balancing very difficult especially initially.
Many women great least mildly irritated at having to wear a bra
every day. It is a necessary evil in most cases. This would be
quite greatly amplified in a swapped man. I could see it causing
great annoyance depending on how well endowed the man becomes.
And lets talk about that for a minute. I think most men can happily
enjoy a lovely sized chest on a girl but once the tables are turned
the weight, jiggle and hinderance it causes might outweigh the
appeal of being able to see boobs whenever they want.
And as mentioned before the simple act of peeing becomes a bigger
ordeal. Naturally they would get used to a new routine eventually
but having to go through a more involved process depending on
clothing and bathroom circumstances would be very frustrating.
That's really just the tip of the iceberg too. There's a lot of
situations that would be radically different. I could see being
perceived differently in abilities in employment would be a
struggle. As well as how men and women will view the man socially
now. More emphasis put on their physical appearance. Pressure to
dress a certain way or use make up would be a big change to deal
with.
And ask any woman and she'll tell you periods are no joke. And
that's coming from women who have experienced them for years. I
think a newly changed man would have a nightmare dealing with that
aspect.
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From: cj
, 91 months, post #20 |
I can't think of anything to add to this list. It's already being
discussed wonderfully IMO.
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