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From: guest
, 103 months, post #61 |
As a gay man I can verify that sex with men is fantastic, never
tried it with a woman and never will, women turn me off and I find
the vagina repugnant and boobs grotesque lol, but I'm probably one
of the few here who finds women to be an utter turn off.
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From: guest
, 103 months, post #62 |
Haha respect man. I find boobs and vagina so fascinating I want to
know what it feels like to have them. But everyone has there own
preference. I seriously can't believe I am about to turn 33 and I
still feel this way. I was beyond fascinated by it as a kid and
still am.
What a weird world we live in. We live in a time where sex change
is there and can be obtained with pretty convincing results but
it's still expensive and pretty much premanant. 30 years ago we
couldn't of imagine the technology they have know and in 30 years
from now the technology will even be better.
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From: guest (Hysteria)
, 103 months, post #63 |
"In all honesty Hysteria's story really turns me on to no end. I
did read it and I know from her story it's not the best or worst
experience but in my mind it's amazing."
I am reading this thread, you know, dude. You don't have to refer
to me indirectly.
It sounds as though you're kinda hearing what you want to hear.
Hopefully you can separate those what's in your mind from reality
at least intellectually. Like, I still have the same fetish as you
and still rub off to TG crap all the time (albeit while turning off
the logical part of my brain) so I can understand why the ideas of
some of the stuff I'm saying might be erotic to you.
But I am telling you that in practice, they're really not sexually
interesting at all. Seriously. Imagining otherwise was a really
unhealthy way for me to think in the past.
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From: guest (jb)
, 103 months, post #64 |
"Does that mean you don't feel the urine flow through your penis?"
No, I don't. Firstly, when I'm peeing I don't really think about it
that much so I don't notice where the flow is coming from.
Secondly, even if I was focused on the 'feeling of peeing' all I
can tell is that it is flowing from my urethra.
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From: Forestier
, 103 months, post #65 |
jb wrote: "Firstly, when I'm peeing I don't really think about it that much
so I don't notice where the flow is coming from."
Did you do what Hysteria asked me to?
"Next time you go to the bathroom, sit down to pee instead of
standing, and try to think hard about what you're actually feeling
without looking down."
Hysteria, you wrote you felt surprise on putting on panties during
the first six months after your SRS. Did you feel surprise also
when waking up? Most young men wake up with an erection, and I
suppose one would notice the lack of that.
Another question: did you have weird dreams after your transition
(related to the transition, of course)? Do you still have dreams in
which you are a man, or a man undergoing some strange or magical
TG?
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From: guest
, 103 months, post #66 |
"As a gay man I can verify that sex with men is fantastic, never
tried it with a woman and never will, women turn me off and I find
the vagina repugnant and boobs grotesque lol, but I'm probably one
of the few here who finds women to be an utter turn off."
Picture this, making love to a pile of slimy dead rotting tuna
fish.
Haha only kidding.
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From: Forestier
, 103 months, post #67 |
"I find boobs and vagina so fascinating I want to know what it
feels like to have them. (...) I seriously can't believe I am about
to turn 33 and I still feel this way. I was beyond fascinated by it
as a kid and still am."
Don't worry, I'm 51 and still find womanhood fascinating. In fact,
this thread make me dream about it even stronger.
Both the author of the OP's content and Hysteria may well have
chosen to undergo this drastic change for bad reasons, both none of
them seem to regret it, do they?
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From: guest
, 103 months, post #68 |
Did you at least hold a memorial or burial for your penis? I always
mourn the loss of an adult male's penis from this world. The world
needs more penis not less. This thread actually kind of brings a
tear to my eye thinking that the world lost a beautiful beautiful
penis.
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From: guest (helmet_lad)
, 103 months, post #69 |
>Did you at least hold a memorial or burial for your penis? I
always mourn the loss of an adult male's penis from this world. The
world needs more penis not less. This thread actually kind of
brings a tear to my eye thinking that the world lost a beautiful
beautiful penis.
That reminds me of a very dear friend of mine, who was a m2f. He,
or should I say she now, had the most sexy fucking looking cock I
have ever damn seen. It had perfect length, perfect width, a great
circumference to the head of it, and I tell you when he came, it
was pouring. It was the single sexiest most perfect penis I had
ever saw. I wish I had a picture of it. It put the Mona Lisa to
shame when it comes to beauty. I think it was one of the greatest
tragedies I have ever known after she got it.... removed. Needless
to say I don't see her anymore, it hurts too much and I'm too gay
to try sticking it in her new vag,
I wish she could have just transplanted that perfect dick to
another man or something so that it and all its glory could
continue to live on to this day, hell I would have taken it it was
so perfect. But alas it was turned into a snatch...
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From: guest (Hysteria)
, 103 months, post #70 |
Hysteria, you wrote you felt surprise on putting on panties during
the first six months after your SRS. Did you feel surprise also
when waking up? Most young men wake up with an erection, and I
suppose one would notice the lack of that.
>>
I never really experienced morning wood myself (too deep a sleeper
or something), so I can't speak on that account. I did have a
moment of shock for the first month or two on waking up however,
though it's difficult to say if that was a result of the anatomical
change or just pain/numbness, which was unnerving for quite a
while. In the long run it made it easier to sleep, however.
"Another question: did you have weird dreams after your transition
(related to the transition, of course)? Do you still have dreams in
which you are a man, or a man undergoing some strange or magical
TG?"
>>
For a while I did, but my self-image has changed enough at this
point that I don't really dream of myself as a man in any terms any
longer. I still have dreams of TG stuff happening to others,
however, in the same vein that how I enjoy fetish material has
changed.
"Both the author of the OP's content and Hysteria may well have
chosen to undergo this drastic change for bad reasons, both none of
them seem to regret it, do they?"
You can regret some parts of transition without regretting all of
it. Again, I'm not unhappy with the outcome, but I did lose a ton
of money/time and create loads of social awkwardness for myself.
Penis
>>
I know you're screwing around since everybody knows there isn't
anything to bury after GRS, but I honestly find penis exaltation
like this strange at this point. Like, without the context of
having one, I've realized that when you divorce it from sexuality,
a penis is a pretty bizzare and gross organ. Sticky, veiny,
awkward. I can't even really look at a circumcised one without
feeling a little ill.
Anyway, this thread is getting a little weird, so I'm probably
going to back off unless someone asks something particularly
interesting.
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From: Forestier
, 103 months, post #71 |
To helmet_lad:
As much as I understand, in a M2F SRS, the penis is not removed and
thrown away, it is rearranged into a sensitive vagina and clitoris.
"You can regret some parts of transition without regretting all of
it. Again, I'm not
unhappy with the outcome"
As I understand it, this is also the conclusion I draw from the
opening post. This girl loves being a woman, she got to love sex
with men, even if she was not a gay guy before the transition, but
she dislikes some aspect of being a woman and some aspect of being
a transwoman. But let us not forget that all
transwoman did dislike a lot a aspects of being a man, didn't
they?
In the long run it made it easier to sleep, however."
How so, if I may ask? That
would be quite an improvement.
"Anyway, this thread is getting a little weird, so I'm probably
going to back off unless someone asks something particularly
interesting."
Hysteria, thanks for all your input. They were very appreciated, at
least by me.
And, as a Montrealer, let me tell you Ottawa is not really cold...
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From: cj
, 103 months, post #72 |
"Hysteria, thanks for all your input. They were very appreciated"
Indeed. Forestier is not alone in appreciation of your
participation in this discussion. Thank you Hysteria.
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From: Forestier
, 103 months, post #73 |
Isn't Kathie a transwoman too? Didn't she write: "When I get frustrated by something that only (or mostly) happens
to women, I get pleasure out of the fact that the experience is a
form of validation.
I hope she will come back into this thread?
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From: cj
, 103 months, post #74 |
I'm always happy when the ladies share their experiences and
insights with us. There have been a fair number over the years who
have done so. Doesn't matter if they were born with a female body,
or not, their experiences are like food for the soul... or fuel for
the fires of fantasy. :-\
I'm not sure that I'd be brave enough to share some of those
personal things with such a public audience... then again. ~shrugs~
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From: guest
, 103 months, post #75 |
"I know you're screwing around since everybody knows there isn't
anything to bury after GRS, but I honestly find penis exaltation
like this strange at this point. Like, without the context of
having one, I've realized that when you divorce it from sexuality,
a penis is a pretty bizzare and gross organ. Sticky, veiny,
awkward. I can't even really look at a circumcised one without
feeling a little ill.
Anyway, this thread is getting a little weird, so I'm probably
going to back off unless someone asks something particularly
interesting."
Well I think you're wrong, penises are beautiful to me while
vaginas are disgusting cringe worthy gaping holes of roast beef
curtains.
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From: Forestier
, 103 months, post #76 |
Please, do not hijack this thread.
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From: guest
, 103 months, post #77 |
Please do not try and stifle people's views or opinions that do not
align to your wishes.
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From: cj
, 103 months, post #78 |
"Please do not try and stifle people's views or opinions that do
not align to your wishes."
I'm so glad to know that you are able to read minds and know that
those previous opinions did not align with Forestier's own. Also,
the irony. :-)
If all one is going to do is post about how their opinion is
correct and the opinion of others is incorrect, then the thread is
going to devolve into a meaningless mess of childish taunts. The
purpose of the Message Board is to discuss
the topic started in the original post (with the occasional
side-trip down a tangent). While opinions are often shared, they
are usually done quickly and/or with an attempt to move the
discussion along.
A few of the posts previous to Forestier's were beginning to
threaten to steer this discussion into a "penis vs vagina"
devolution. Forestier appears to have been reminding everyone that
such devolution would probably render this thread locked to guest
posters, as it does not add to the conversation. Something I would
have done (a reminder, that is) in a post or two, should it have
continued.
In short - opinions are welcome... as long as they add to the
discussion... are NOT an attack on another poster, and otherwise
follow the posting guidelines... and are NOT dwelled upon for post
after post (i.e. thread hijacking).
Another reason using a blank guest post is unwise... two (or three)
posters doing the same, appear to be just one person. At least pick
a unique alias for your guest posts. :-)
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From: guest
, 103 months, post #79 |
Uhhh not to be a bitch, but you mods can see ip's and see who is
and who is not the same person, like you knew that one dude face
who was going around spamming was the same person, and then there
was that one guy who kept pretending to be multiple people a long
time ago in some argument over some bs, I can't remember what, but
I personally prefer the guest name as I don't like committing to
nicknames. Because I'll end up changing my mind later and wanting a
new name. I think the anonymous nature of the website 4chan has
made me accustomed to anonymous posting, it's just my style.
And he already revealed what was on his mind... he wanted the
thread to go in a specific direction. I'm just personally of the
opinion that threads are more fun when people are allowed to stray
a little off topic now and again, and conversations aren't
micromanaged, but that's me.
And to picking a name I will just have to quote Bartelby the
Scrivener "“I prefer not to".
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From: Forestier
, 103 months, post #80 |
tsn: "Out of interest, how many autogynephilics here think they
experience gender dysphoria?"
I've always felt as foreign to most male interests as well as
to most female interests, since childhood. I've always wondered
how it would like to have a woman's body, even while having sex,
but not to live a woman's life. For example, never wanted to make
up, to wear high heels or to shave my legs or my armpits. But I
wouldn't mind to have been pregnant and breastfeeding. I've been
wearing a beard since I am 19, but it could be by insistance to
state I am a man. I possess and wear kilts (both traditional and
modernized), but these are kilts, not skirts. I love sex with
women, have an acceptable sex drive, and never wanted to have sex
with man � but that was the case of the OP before her surgery.
I don't hate being a man, but I feel I would like being a woman,
and I think exchanging my dick for a vagina and breasts would be a
good deal.
But I would make a lot of people sad or wondering...
The DMS-5 states:
Gender Incongruence (in Adolescents or Adults)
A marked incongruence between one�s experienced/expressed gender
and assigned gender, of at least 6 months duration, as manifested
by 2* or more of the following indicators:
1. a marked incongruence between one�s experienced/expressed gender
and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or, in young
adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)
2. a strong desire to be rid of one�s primary and/or secondary sex
characteristics because of a marked incongruence with one�s
experienced/expressed gender (or, in young adolescents, a desire to
prevent the development of the anticipated secondary sex
characteristics)
3. a strong desire for the primary and/or secondary sex
characteristics of the other gender
4. a strong desire to be of the other gender (or some alternative
gender different from one�s assigned gender)
5. a strong desire to be treated as the other gender (or some
alternative gender different from one�s assigned gender)
6. a strong conviction that one has the typical feelings and
reactions of the other gender (or some alternative gender different
from one�s assigned gender)
(...)
For the adult criteria, we propose, on a preliminary basis, the
requirement of only 2 indicators.
I would get only the number 3, and maybe 4, but in a mild way.
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