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From: guest (KJ) , 105 months, post #1
This morning was reading about "man spread". Being a male, the size I am and narrow hipped, it is difficult to keep my legs fairly close together.

Some women complain about men like me, but if they only knew of my desire to be in a female body and quite naturally cross my legs, to the point of even able to wrap the the dangling foot behind the calf of the other leg.

From: cj , 105 months, post #2
I had to look it up. Never heard of it before.

Some of the images that I've seen on the interwebs about "manspreading" are not much different than the way I sit these days. I'm a bigger guy, and it IS much more comfortable to set with my knees a bit further apart than my hips are wide. Apparently, even at my most constrained, I will still be an example of poor manners, as it is currently impossible for me to sit with my legs parallel without extreme discomfort or possible injury.

That being said, there is something to sitting that way on a crowded bus, plane, train or what have you. Sitting with my knees closer together on a crowded plane... for hours on end, is one of the many reasons I avoid flying commercially if can. I just can get close to comfortable on those dang things when stuck for hours. But for a dozen minutes or so... I don't see it being such a big hassle to close 'em up a bit.

One article mentioned that sometimes two men would "man spread", taking up three seats. I know how to clear them out... All I'd have to do is ignore them altogether and sit right between them. Of course, a guy like me can hold his own in a two-on-one if necessary (then there would be three seats vacant), but a woman isn't likely to use that tack.

Then again, it's unlikely that I'll need to go to a city as densely populated as NYC anyhow - and out here in the boonies, nobody's around to mind... it's just the livestock, the wild critters, and me. Well, almost.

From: Mr. Ram , 105 months, post #3
Aw common, in a crowded place it's just rude!

Really, your package is so big you can't put your knees together? B.S.

Mr. Ram

From: guest (Brad) , 105 months, post #4
I don't think he's saying it's because of his package. I can't stand being on a plane for too long either with my knees close together because it's just plain uncomfortable. It has nothing to do with my junk. I'm familiar with man spreading because evey friggin time I'm on a plane I get stuck between two big guys who ARE man spreading and my knees are forced together. Sucks big time.

From: guest (Jayzie) , 105 months, post #5
It's not much of a problem for me to cross my legs, which is one of the many reasons I thought I developed into a cross dreamer in the first place. Larger hips sometimes occurs because of hormones I believe.

I feel sorry for women who have the "man spread" issue. I've heard of some (usually women who are shaped like "apples") that cannot cross their legs. It's got to be the most non-feminine thing in the world.

If I were tf'd into a woman I'd better be able to cross my damn legs, I tell you!

From: cj , 105 months, post #6
"Aw common, in a crowded place it's just rude!"

I concur. So it is my place to try to shrink the amount of space I take as much as I can. I won't be able to become as small as the average man, but I'll make myself as small as I can. I can't do anything more than that. And it should (hopefully) only be for a few minutes.

And most of the time, I can stand to just stand up and out of the way too.


"Really, your package is so big you can't put your knees together?"

Yep! :-P

Nah, I wasn't that blessed (or cursed)... it's the extra fat I've accumulated over the years. It's a tough beast to wrestle with, and effects one in ways the average person doesn't usually think of. Like acting as a fulcrum leveraging against your hip sockets when you try to press your knees together. And of course, making for less room for the bits in between.

The bottom line is, I have an "excuse" (although not a great one), and people can see (though they might be disgusted by it), but I do what I can to diminish my occupation of the space around me. Others don't really have an excuse, and they just don't care.

At least I'm doing two things about it. 1. I'm frighting to reverse what is causing my condition, my "excuse"... and 2. I do my best to avoid taking up crowded public spaces in the first place.

From: guest (KJ) , 105 months, post #7
For me it is not fat, or the size of "my package", it is I am muscular big, and have narrow male hips.

When setting next to others I do what I can to keep in my space, but it is physically impossible for me to cross my legs at the knee, more like a woman.

My desire is to not have "man spread" by being a woman with that afore mentioned leg wrapping ability. The secret I carry inside and wish I could share to the ladies when I hear them complain about "man spread".

From: guest , 105 months, post #8
Seriously, when internet feminists (and clueless guys on the recieving end of complaints) make comments about a guy's junk in regards to "manspreading" it really cracks me up. It's about bone structure more than anything. Some of the pictures are ridiculous, though, I will admit. It does seem rather anti-feminist to take pictures of a stranger without their consent, though, but I guess consent doesn't matter if someone's presence offends you.

The internet makes me hate people so much.

From: guest , 105 months, post #9
I can't cross my legs like a European. It has to be figure 4--ankle across knee. And yes it's b/c my 'nads would get crushed. I could reach down and pull them onto my lap with some discomfort (socially and physically) but I don't sit like a starfish just to mark territory like some d'bag.

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