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From: guest (Jc)
, 108 months, post #1 |
I was just wondering how many natural born females visit this site
and have an interest in tg, body swapping etc. I remember a while
back there were a few who even posted some pics of themselves (well
hope it was actually them and not just some dudes catfishing)
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From: guest (Jayzie)
, 108 months, post #2 |
I'd say that the catfish are a safe bet.
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From: guest (RikJohnson)
, 108 months, post #3 |
I work in the Courthouse and was one of the few clerks that was not
creeped out by the TS people coming in for a m2f/f2m Name Change.
So I was the guy who talked to them all.
One day I got curious and spent my lunch hour at the University
Medical Center Library reading up on gender change. Aside from my
surprise that I could still understand the surgical descriptions,
the psychological papers were more interesting.
Generally, it appears that men want the entire female package!
clothes, boobs, multiple orgasms, lifestyle, etc. Most come back a
year later to get a larger vagina made. size queens I guess.
Women, however, almost never want the male package. They want to
wear male clothing, dump the breasts and periods then they stop!
They want to be neither men nor women but something that is
male-appearing & male-acting but with female genitals and still
date women.
Thus I suspect that the actual number of real females on this site
to be extremely low but the number of
female-impersonators/pretenders to be much higher simply because
this site caters to actual and total change, not impersonations..
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From: cj
, 108 months, post #4 |
"... Thus I suspect that the actual number of real females on this
site to be extremely low "
Seems that you're only considering that the audience here is gender
TF/swap based.
Don't forget that we have plenty of transformation aficionados who
are interested in animal, inanimate, mechanical, size, age, and
many more, rather than (or as well as) gender.
I suspect that we have plenty (albeit, maybe only 15-30% of actual
visitors/contributors) who were born into a female body. The thing
is, that VERY few of them make that fact known.
Put yourself into their shoes... You've got a female body, and
you're on a site where the most vocal participants are men who get
sexually exited at the thought of possessing, stealing, or forcing
a swap into a body like yours. You have to deal with the lustful
leers, jeers, jokes, and thoughts of men around you every dang day.
You just want a place to go where you can be yourself without
getting harassed by all these "perverts". -- I'd keep my mouth shut
and enjoy what little anonymity (and peace) is afforded me in the
online world too. :-)
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From: sexualitylab
, 108 months, post #5 |
I think there are two likely reasons for why very few women
frequent this site. The first is that women who were born women
very rarely have paraphilias (the technical term for "unusual
sexual interests," or sexual interests in anything that doesn't
involve another consenting adult). So they are much more unlikely
than men who were born men to be sexually interested in
transformations. Also, please note I am not claiming that everyone
is here for the sexual aspect of it, just that it plays a role in
fostering the interest in transformations (whether overtly sexual
or not) for many guys. The second reason is that women just don't
seem to visit specialized forums like this one as much as men do.
This is speaking mostly from my experience being online for many
years, so I could be wrong.
Also, I agree with Jayzie that people who claim to be women born
women on here are probably catfishing or, more likely given the
purpose of this site, enacting their fantasy of being women. cj's
point that women born women would be unlikely to bring that fact up
is also probably true. But I would be even more conservative with
the estimate and say <1-2% of the active users here were born
female.
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From: cj
, 108 months, post #6 |
"... <1-2% of the active users here were born female."
I won't disagree with that at all. I feel that we have some viewers
that simply lurk - male and female, without actively participating.
:-)
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From: guest (ashie)
, 108 months, post #7 |
I'm a natural born female, and to be honest it never occurred to me
until now that women were such a minority on this site. Admittedly
I am one of those visitors that spends the majority of their time
on here simply lurking.
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From: guest (lily)
, 108 months, post #8 |
Assigned-female-at-birth women who post, or have posted, here is
not a countable number. Some will be stealthy, or merely coy, about
their gender.
It is changing (slowly slowly), but for a long time, everyone on
the internet was presumed to be white, male, and from the United
States.
It is a cultural thing. For many men, to be female is to be
gendered. To be male is just to be.
For many white folks, to be other-than-white is to have a race. To
be white is to be non-racial, just to be.
For many americans, to be from outside the US is to be foreign. To
be from the US is just to be.
Women (AFAB or Trans) on internet forums -- particularly in geek
culture (gaming, comics, science fiction, etc.) -- may choose not
to disclose their gender for a variety of reasons. Being presumed
male can have advantages when exchanging information with fan-boys.
I used to post to the Talk Origins usenet newsgroup
(under a different handle). When I'd identify as a woman I'd
sometimes be accused of lying. More often, I'd get requests for
pictures or for my personal contact information. It can be
exhausting to have to justify your authenticity as a geek to people
who you want to call your allies�
Nothing to Prove - Geek Girls & The Doubleclicks
@RikJohnson #3 "Most come back a year later to get a larger vagina
made."
I am having a hard time imagining a "larger vagina". It sometimes
happens that MTF vaginoplasty results in insufficient depth
. and surgical revisions are required. I challenge you assertion,
however, that "most" transwomen need this correction after GRS. I
suspect that your information is either out-of-date, or incomplete.
As for this about transmen "They want to be neither men nor women
but something that is male-appearing & male-acting but with female
genitals and still date women." you are simply incorrect.
The sad fact is that the state of the art for FTM phalloplasty is
unsatisfactory for many transmen. The surgery is expensive and many
techniques produce only a cosmetic penis, not a functional or
sensitive organ.
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From: guest (Jc)
, 108 months, post #9 |
So Ashie what are your interests here? I've always wondered how
females view gender issues etc
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