Turned the Scythians at her temple at Ascelon into women.|
, 160 months, post #1 |
Not quite. When the Scythians sacked Ascelon, they raised the
temple of Athena/Venus to the ground. In revenge, the goddess
changed the entire invading army into women, and had them dragged
off by their enemies as wives. The story is, I believe, in either
Herodotus or Thucydides.|
, 134 months, post #2 |
I've read both Herodotus and Thucydides' histories and don't
remember this. I think something like this would stick in my
memory. Thucydides anyway has very little if any mythological
content. The previous poster was probably thinking of some other
historian or mythographer.|
From: Lady Sekhmet*
, 134 months, post #3 |
This particular "myth" comes from a citation in Krafft-Ebing's
"Psychopathia Sexualis". It was a mis-interpretation of a Herodotus
text regarding "permanent effentinatio" among the Scythians (that
constant horseback riding caused effeminization of warriors due to
the friction against their privates).|
This has no basis in actual mythology but has been cited in so many
places that it has been adopted as true.
, 134 months, post #4 |
Possible I've got the writer wrong (I've read so many of them,
after all), but I do remember coming across this story once and
thinking "whoa!", which is why it stuck in my mind. Will have to do
, 134 months, post #5 |
I can confirm what Lady Sekhmet said. I had read it in various
places attributed to Heroditus, but also read that it is a
mistranslation. It seems that sociologists interested in gender
relations are usually quoting it. I did look up the passage in
Heroditus and found it apparnely vague in meaning. The
interpretation of horse caused insterility was a guess by
Hippocrates. The curse put on the Sythians is, if memory serves me,
translated as "the female disease" but is otherwise unexplained,
and could easily be anything.|
, 133 months, post #6 |
, 122 months, post #7 |
Yes, maybe it is apocryphal but it shoulda happened, so let's
pretend it did. I wish it could happen now. : )|
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