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From: guest (JK)
, 118 months, post #21 |
Am just a guy that likes TG fiction and has TG fantasies on himself
and others, those others might include homosexuals. As in the case
of would like to read more stories where homosexuals are forced to
become the opposite gender because of various reasons.
It is as simple as that, and do not know why some people have to
add so much drama to it.
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From: guest (lily)
, 118 months, post #22 |
;,,,do not know why some people have to add so much drama to it.
There is a lot of drama, a lot of history and tension, connected to
the idea that male homosexuality and transsexualism are linked, and
to the ways that they have been linked Lots of men
in positions of authority, both political and medical, have tried
to make one a cause and/or a cure for the other. It is complicated.
Homosexuality was outlawed in much of world until very recently, it
is still outlawed in something like 80 countries. link;
It wasn't that long ago -- in the US -- that the only safe places
for trans folks were gay bars, In some US cities police used to use
anti-crossdressing laws to justify raids. stonewall
, compton's
There are still places in the US where "morality laws" are
enforced. There are places where gay people and trans people are
compelled to undergo "treatment" by official authority.
So, for lots of people who identify as, or with, either homosexual
or trans, saying that you want to read stories about gay men forced
to undergo sexual reassignment is going to be a trigger.
For you, maybe, it feels like this forum isn't about any of that --
that this is just
a safe place for fans of various kinds transformation fiction. But
that category includes folks are are gay and folks who are trans,
So, for others posting and reading here, your comment felt
threatening -- making this place feel less safe for them.
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From: guest (oing)
, 118 months, post #23 |
you hit the nail on the head lily
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From: guest (JK)
, 118 months, post #24 |
Well, it must be sad to live in a state of constant being offended,
and trying to project your issues on to others and make the others
responsible for them, but we have people making a career of it
these days.
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #25 |
JK, I really think you need to take a step back and reflect on what
you're saying and how it is coming off, especially when saying
things like "This might be a small wake up call to get over
yourself.", and then accusing others of projecting. How ironic...
"Seriously, if you want homosexuality to be accepted more in
society, stop playing into the stereotype of being a "drama queen"
over every made up thing in your mind that someone is out to get
you."
Wow... Homosexuality's acceptance should be based upon whether or
not someone is being a "drama queen", by your characterization? I
think you are the one who needs to get over themselves, sir.
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #26 |
" but we have people making a career of it these days."
Say what????
Ummm, look on the opposite side of the spectrum, have we not heard
of people like oh say Michele Bachmann?
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #27 |
Kudos to you Lily, very well said, you're my new hero.
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From: guest (lily)
, 118 months, post #28 |
JK's tone-deafness aside,does anybody have an answer for his
(implied) request for stores which feature the scenario he
describes?
I really can't think of anything. I did a super search on "law".
"outlawed". "illegal", "homosexual", "government". etc. I couldn't
find anything about the forced reassignment of homosexuals. (it is
interesting how many stories involve mothers-in-law).
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From: guest (lily)
, 118 months, post #29 |
Should have said "I did a super search on Fictionmania on�"
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #30 |
There are fictional stories out there about forced SRS on
mother-in-laws?
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #31 |
@lily
If you don't mind my asking are you a male or a female? I realize
that lily is a female name, but considering that this is a
transformation story community, I didn't know if you are a woman or
if it is a fantasy that you have. Sorry, I'm just very curious to
know.
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From: guest (lily)
, 118 months, post #32 |
There are fictional stories out there about forced SRS on
mother-in-laws?
^.^
Searching on "law" in the story synopsis field returns 125 stories,
of which 28 (by a very hast count) include the words
"mother-in-law". Most seem to be forced feminization stories.
Its surprising is that a many of these stories seemed to have been
added in the last 10 years. To my Gen X-ish sensibilities, the
"evil mother-in-law" seems like a baby boomer trope.
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #33 |
Haha, must be quite a few people out there that despise their
mother-in-laws. The first thing that came to my mind when reading
about SRS mother-in-laws is that one movie with Jennifer Lopez and
Jane Fonda.
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From: guest (lily)
, 118 months, post #34 |
@ guest #31 If you don't mind my asking are you a male or a female?
I don't mind you asking, but I decline to reply to an unsigned
post. If it helps, I post here frequently, always as "lilly" or
"lilly-the-longwinded" or something like that.
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From: guest (Ladam)
, 118 months, post #35 |
@lily
Oh even if I signed my post you wouldn't know who I am, I just
never sign my posts here, half out of laziness, the other half
because I can never think of a nickname that I want to stick to.
But I'll sign this one, haha.
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #36 |
'As this thread has seen a majority of posts being more personal
than critical of JK, and JK trying to defend himself against the
"attacks" in perhaps a bit less than diplomatic fashion'
No offense intended, but I sincerely think JK has been the most
personal in this thread.
'Respect each other - ESPECIALLY if their views DIFFER from
yours... You're NOT perfect either! '
I hate to disagree but not all opinions are equal or deserving of
equal respect. Is hatred and hate filled opinions deserving of the
same respect as opinions that differ? For example, and this is a
bit extreme, but does 'Mein Kampf' deserve equal respect as those
who differ? I think not.
Sorry, cj, but I find JK's statements highly offensive and not
deserving of respect.
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #37 |
Those are some wild assumptions you're having there, at no point
did JK imply he hated homosexuals, he just asked about stories with
a theme he finds interesting and honestly seeing how many stories
with forced changes and similar themes there are in TG fiction, I
don't see how this is any worse. I do believe a lot of people here
are overreacting.
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From: guest (JK)
, 118 months, post #38 |
Some of the TG stories I like deal with all men becoming women, I
do not hate all men, it is just the theme of a story.
Some TG stories I like have a rape in them, I do not approve of
rape.
Some TG stories I like have a woman being turned into a man and the
new man's dealing with now being male, I do not hate women.
Many TG stories deal with humiliating a heterosexual man by making
him into woman, I do not hate heterosexual men..
A few stories I have read have the theme of homosexuality not being
approved of and the homosexual one being changed into the opposite
gender, in order to have their body fit in with a more heterosexual
attraction. I would like to find more of them or see more of them
written.
So because of that or that I will not apologize for wanting to read
more stories like it, I am a hater, am sick?
Yes, if that one simple admission of a storyline enjoyment and a
request for more offends you, you do need to get over yourself,
stop playing into a stereotype and stop projecting your issue on to
me and expecting me to take responsibility for it.
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #39 |
@post #37
"Those are some wild assumptions you're having there, at no point
did JK imply he hated homosexuals, he just asked about stories with
a theme he finds interesting and honestly seeing how many stories
with forced changes and similar themes there are in TG fiction, I
don't see how this is any worse. I do believe a lot of people here
are overreacting."
Have you read all of JK's statements with accusations of "gay
stereotypes", and "drama queens", and if you're being a "drama
queen" perhaps society should not accept homosexuality? These
aren't wild assumptions these are accusations coming right from the
poster.
@JK
Stop with the stereotype bit, as a justification for your
aggressive attitude towards people not liking your opinion or what
you're asking for. And stop using the word projection because I
doubt you know very much about psychology to begin with, and other
than that... I don't really respect anything you have to say, so I
suppose were simply at an impasse here.
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From: guest
, 118 months, post #40 |
"Talking about society's acceptance over homosexuality, depending
on your definition of a drama queen"
Uhhh get over yourself, JK.
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