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Opposite Sex - Actual Desire To Be, Or Is It Just Envy?
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From: guest (Just Asking) , 137 months, post #1

Do you actually desire to be the opposite sex, or is it just envy of them?

Know in my life, as an average, everyday male, I envy women, but do I actually desire to be one is the question I ponder everyday.

How about you?

From: Forestier , 137 months, post #2

I think I'd like being a woman, but it doesn't mean I hate being a man.

From: guest (JohnnyBravo) , 137 months, post #3

I think for me it is more of a fetish/curiousity.

It was be an interesting feeling to not have a penis or to have boobs hanging off my chest. I would like to see what it feels like to wear a thong or tight jeans or a skirt. It would be fun to experience a night out as a woman and see in person some of the physical and psychological differences of the two sexes.

There is probably 100 more things I could go into detail about wanting to experience as the opposite sex. That being said, I could probably get it all out of my system in after a short amount of time. That is the most frusterating part. Don't know for sure until I actually experience it, but I don't think that I would like to live my entire life as a woman with all the challenges they face, but a week or month would be the perfect amount of time to give it a test drive then never have to worry about it again.

Frusterating

From: guest (aras) , 137 months, post #4

Agree with post 2 and 3.
I do not dislike being a male, but even at a very early age (6) I was very gender curious.
I hold no attraction to Men, and I have zero intent of pursuing transition to female.
However, especially now seeing how gorgeous some of these trans women are I do wonder "what if?"
There is an dominant inner voice inside me that doubts I could ever have pulled it off unless I began HRT very early. Success to me would mean being physically on par with a woman I would consider dating today.
But there is a smaller part that says it would have been glorious, as in Model potential.
Back 20 plus years ago things were very different! Also my family was anything BUT supportive about anything in my life. Unfortunately very negative cynical people.
If I was 14 or15 years old today with all the 'support' available our there now, who knows? LOL
Here's hoping in my next life all my "curiosity" will be answered and then some.

From: guest (Jooce) , 137 months, post #5

I think i am just bored...I could go learn to play a guitar but i am also lazy...I could go exercise too, but i like reading and the concept of a foreign body or unfamiliar territory interests me, hence I don't desire to be the opposite gender neither do I envy them because they also cannot change body's at will.. suppose I am just chasing magic as a past time...

From: Forestier , 137 months, post #6

As guest (aras), I've been experiencing curiosity about womanhood since I was very young, early teens.

From: guest (aras) , 137 months, post #7

@post#6
thinking back right around that age 6 or so, my mother setup a Halloween costume for me. It was a black cat, part of the costume was black girls pantyhose. I instantly recognized the girly clothing article and refused to put them on.
My parents proceeded to force me to. Out I went into the street wearing these pantyhose - I do not recall any embarrassing mocking from any other children.
At the end of the night, I thought to myself, you know they kindof felt really good on my legs.
LOL big mistake they made.
To this day, a fetish for sexy legs in nylons goes hand in hand with my TG thoughts. I don't see it as a curse. On the contrary it opened my mind up a fair bit.

Mom and Dad, don't cross dress your kids! LOL

From: dis_guise , 137 months, post #8

I'd definitely like to try being an attractive young woman (nothing spectacular: a cute little brunette with brains, as found by the millions in colleges), and if I found it as congenial as I've hoped I'd want to remain one permanently, but there's no way it can possibly happen. I'm very picky and I'd want to be much shorter and smaller than I am as a man, and able to menstruate and have children and all that.

I don't mind being male, which is just as well, as given my criteria I'm stuck that way: too picky and not desperate enough for the whole gender-reassignment thing.

From: guest (Eric) , 137 months, post #9

It's funny because.. There are many things about being man that I like, I mean, I think, even like.. 65% of stuffs..

But again, there are things about being a woman that I would LOVE... Their appearance, their body, the clothes that they can wear (I would so love being able to wear pretty dresses and pantyhose)

About your question... I think BOTH options.. A envy them, cause.. Women are beautiful, and I wish to be beautiful as them.. And sometimes I wish to be her.

There a questioning that I really like: "Every time I see a girl, I wonder: Do I like her, or do I want BE her?"

From: guest (aras) , 137 months, post #10

@Eric, post#9

one of my favorite media moments.
Not sure if you've seen "Mesmer's Bauble" from an old 80's Canadian TV show.
Basically a Loser male obtains a cursed necklace that will grant any Wish he makes. For a long time he was obsessed with female musician. He gets her to his apartment and they are stripped down nude. She says "what's the matter, don't you want me?" he brings the necklace up to both their eyes gaze and says, "no... I want to BE YOU" the magic then happens, melting their bodies together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX1S5tfY7BE&list=PLE31056C3EE569B16
soo good!

From: cj , 137 months, post #11

I've been asking myself that very question for many years.

I think, given the right body... I'd be happy with whichever gender I got. I have to admit that there are certain things about being a man that I appreciate - especially when outdoors, running late to get out of the house, paying for clothes and health & beauty items, etc.

But there's the curiosity of what a woman's world is like. The vast selection and materials and styles of clothing - many designed for appearance more than function. Wrestling with hair and makeup, nails & polishes, accessories and such. I'm just starting to realize the utility a woman's purse has - I've found I can finally get away with a nice backpack... the utility is there, the range of styles I can choose is not (and I'm not in an area where a man-purse is acceptable).

But I'm also very curious about the physical differences in motion and placement of the female body vs male. Some can be mimicked, but I want to feel the natural motion... the differences in the way a male vs female person would carry themself. I also want to experience the way that a woman's mind thinks / the effect of hormones on her emotional state & thought process - it seems that women do "think" differently than me - if it was possible, I'd like to experience the difference.

Although I'm sure I'd be over this rather quickly, and the prospect of pregnancy and childbirth if actually possible, would scare the heck out of me - I'd still like to understand how a period affects a woman's life... and I'd still love the option to experience pregnancy and childbirth and breast-feeding.

For me, if it was possible, passable, and I could remain patient enough - I'd love to experience the changes that a girl goes through as she becomes a woman. I'm not keen to have to deal with being a kid again and deal with what I'm told are mean girls when they go through puberty - but then again - that is part of what shapes a girl as she becomes a woman. What better way to learn how to be a woman than the same way that a woman normally learns... experience and exposure as you grown and learn from a youth as a girl into a woman.

From: Forestier , 137 months, post #12

Very nice post, cj.

From: cj , 137 months, post #13

Thanks Forestier.

Interestingly, I didn't mention the differences in how I would be treated as a woman... something that I'm now a bit curious about as well.

From: Tuggy24g , 137 months, post #14

I would love to be a woman!!

From: guest (touched) , 137 months, post #15

Im just super nerdy, and unattractive as a whole.
I just love dreaming about the "What ifs".
Any one agree?
"What if I was a woman"
"What if I could fly"
"What if I could swap bodies by thought, touch ,etc"
"What if I could morph myself"
"heck what if I could do anything I wanted"
If I could do any of those things I would be the happiest person in the world.
I would probably be selfish in the beginning but as time progressed I would see the errors of my ways and correct them.
...What if

Oh and I do alot of "I wish" , "One day" and "I hope" xD

From: guest , 137 months, post #16

There would be pros and cons for a man being transformed into a woman.
Cons would be a loss of physical strength, loss of respect from society. increased chance of rape, increased chance of being flirted with/checked out, having to deal with child birth and PMS, having to cross legs when wearing a skirt or dress, etc..
Pros would be you would be able to get some men to do your bidding, you could get out of doing physical labor, you'd get to see women naked and/or in their lingerie, etc...

From: Forestier , 137 months, post #17

I think my envy is more sexual than social: I'd want to have a woman's body, to fell it. The make up and so on do not interest me. But I've always dated women who hardly made up, so...

From: guest (gallux) , 137 months, post #18

I do not wish I was born a woman, so I could not envy them. Being a woman to them is something totally normal, as it is for us being men, isn't it? So why envy them? It would be rational to envy them in case you wanted to be born one of them. But then, the fact is that you would not remember being a guy after all... So in the end, does it make sense?

Now, suddently find myself in a true woman's body, that is my greatest fetish... I would envy DEEPLY some guy that had this miracle made true. But I do not envy any born woman, just admire them... A LOT.

From: guest (The Insomniac) , 137 months, post #19

This is an interesting question that I've given a good deal of thought to.

On the one hand, I often times wish I were a girl. Just about everything about living on that side of the gender fence seems appealing to me. All of the traits typically ascribed to be female, from personality to style to appearance, are ones I think I would like to have. I like the idea of periods and pregnancy, the lot of it. I sometimes think about maybe pursuing living as the other gender, though that desire is tempered by the fact that I'm quite tall (6'3") and feel that I would have a difficult time passing as a natural woman.

On the other hand, I'm entirely heterosexual. As such, I'm largely thankful that I'm a man and thus can pursue females and have it be considered normal. I sometimes wonder if my desire to be female is rooted from that desire to pursue women, but simply became distorted to a sort of envy at some point along the way. Perhaps I am simply attracted to women, but at some point got the message that I could only really fixate on the female body if I imagined myself as occupying it.

The weird part it, you would think that that combination would result in a desire to be a lesbian, but it doesn't. When I imagine myself as a female, I imagine myself as a heterosexual one. I can imagine myself as a female in a relationship with a man, or even as a man in a relationship with a woman, but imagining myself as a woman with a woman simply does nothing for me. Same goes for man with man.

Its weird to speculate about how exactly we ended up feeling how we do about such things....

From: guest , 137 months, post #20

What type of woman would each man be? Would they be like the Lalola of Spain where they are already in heels, dress skirts, and tight dress shirts in their first week or would they be Lola of Chile and stick to dress pant suits? Not being able to use a urinal would be a culture shock for men.

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