A new cartoon premiering on The Hub on June 1, 2013. A boy becomes a superhero when he inherits a ring from his deceased aunt. The catch is the ring was meant for a female so he becomes a female superhero named SheZow.
SheZow has super-strength and super-speed; a "sonic scream," and SheZow's han ...more|
From: guest (FS)
, 22 months, post #21 |
So is there really a point to this show?|
, 22 months, post #22 |
"Shezow should be deleted from the database asap"
The transformation depicted in Shezow is Guy turning into Shezow
(normal male into a superhero/superheroine)... or at least the
appearance of transforming from a male into female.
As per this site's Guidelines
a physical transformation is depicted, or appears to happen. Even
if it didn't qualify for a true transformation it would certainly
qualify under as a "Borderline" transformation. Other characters
don't recognize the transformed main character when s/he is his/her
, 22 months, post #23 |
So are we going to add crossdressers who "pass"?|
, 22 months, post #24 |
I watched this show and thought it was pretty bad. If the creators
really wanted to push the limits or boundaries of tv, they should
have made it a full and complete transformation in my opinion. The
guy's body should be magically transformed into a female's body
while he is the superhero. It shouldn't just be cross dressing.
Cross dressing is boring in my opinion. I mean if you're into it,
fine but I just think it makes for boring tv. Personally, I'd
rather see a male character put on a cursed ring and be transformed
physically into a female superhero rather than just wear a female
superhero costume. I want to see him struggle with not only having
to wear a female superhero costume but also having to deal with a
female body too.|
, 22 months, post #25 |
Cross dressing is acceptable if it is used to depict a
transformation or if it appears to be a transformation. I haven't
seen the show, but it doesn't sound like either of those are the
case. Do any of characters on the show or the audience think he has
changed gender? If not being recognized counted, we would have to
include a large amount of cross dressing fiction.|
From: guest (Jayzie)
, 22 months, post #26 |
Idk, there's plenty of sites for cross dressing. This site is
unique in that it only deals with transformations, body changes,
that sorta thing.|
From: guest (guest)
, 22 months, post #27 |
people seem to forget that its a show for 9 - 14 year olds, its not
made to satisfy your fetish or to push to boundries.....|
From: guest (penguinattack)
, 22 months, post #28 |
if you want fetish based stuff watch porn or the many youtube
channels out there that cater to that sort of thing. Don't go
looking for your thrills from a kids show that's about as creepy as
trying to get a thrill from My Little Pony.|
From: guest (lily)
, 22 months, post #29 |
"Do any of characters on the show or the audience think he has
changed gender? If not being recognized counted, we would have to
include a large amount of cross dressing fiction."
So far everyone thinks he is the original Shezow and, apart from
his sister and a male friend who know his secret identity, every
one (ncluding the boy's father) refers to Shezow as "she" or "her".
As for whether this counts as a transformation for the purposes of
inclusion here, I'd vote no. The character design in the show is
highly stylized, but adult women are drawn with breasts and
indented waists. Guy, as Shezow, is drawn as male-bodied (or
pre-pubescent female) in overtly (and obnoxiously stereotyped)
feminine costume. He reads as a boy, or a young girl, dressed in
heels, skirt, wig, and make-up. It is drag in its broadest form; it
is meant to be funny that in-story observers cannot see what is
obvious to the audience.
It is in the same class as Tootsie, Madea, Big Momma, Mrs.
From: guest (guest2)
, 22 months, post #30 |
I agree with penginattack.|
I can't believe all the attention this show is getting.
, 22 months, post #31 |
The show doesn't suck because it's about cross dressing or
something that could be considered as transgendered. It sucks
because the story sucks. Why would little kids want to watch a
crappy show like this?|
From: guest (Jayzie)
, 22 months, post #32 |
I vote no as well. Crossdressing and a kid show? Yeah, that
definitely doesn't belong here, nothing "transformational" about
From: guest (lily)
, 22 months, post #33 |
penguinattack, guest #24 didn't seem to be asking for porn.|
The show is being promoted like an episode of Springer; "Meet the
boy who became a superhero ... dressed as a girl!". It may not have
been the intention of the show's creators, but the channel showing
it in the US (Hub -- which is apparently a joint venture of Hasbro
Toys and Discovery Communications) -- is marketing the show on the
transgressive aspects of crossdressing.
I don't know about "should", but the show WOULD be more interesting
if it the transformation were more than just the clothes.
And yes, I know the show is for kids; but take a look at the
Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network shows aimed at the same age cohort
Body transformations are frequent in animated cartoons for kids.
Johnny Test, The DC Nation shows. Fairly Odd Parents, etc. A show
about an 11 year old boy who becomes an adult woman could be done
without sexualizing the child (the 1970s live action Shazam -- the
show that sort of inspired this one -- featured a
pre-teen/early-teen boy who became an adult man and it NEVER
addressed questions of sexuality).
Or look at Japanese "kid-shows". The body-taboos that Shezow
carefully does not transgress are western and abrahamic -- which is
to say, the product of bronze age superstition overlaid with
The show has, predictably, gotten the attention of One Million
... who, just as predictably, completely miss that the show is all
about heteronormative and cisnormative values.
From: guest (Captain Gallant)
, 22 months, post #34 |
Quite a few years ago, Top Cow, I think, did all the publicity prep
for a comic called "Makeshift" which was, apparently, about a male
cop who could become a female superhero. That fit with the times,
since Mantra was notable over at Malibu concurrently...and even
Image did a tg crossover event. I never heard any reason given, but
Makeshift never got released. Shezow's idea reminded me of that
project. But Shezow is a rather dopey cartoon even for young
children. I tried it, I didn't like it, and won't bother with it
, 22 months, post #35 |
There's like 8 episodes of it up on
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/ if someone wants to form their
own opinion. I'd vote no for inclusion, and it's pretty unwatchable
in any case.|
, 22 months, post #36 |
Also came across a review of Shezow on the Escapist's Big Picture
, a positive one.|
And before any attacks come flying in, my 'unwatchable' opinion is
simply due to the overly frenetic pace and style of the show, not
of the premise.
From: Holly Dunn
, 22 months, post #37 |
I see this show made it in the database as a gender change. If it
stays, in my opinion, it should be labeled "crossdressing only" at
the top of the entry. The show's creator confirms that the
character is a boy in girl's costume.|
The article is titled: "Delving Into SHE-ZOW, the Cross-Dressing
Superhero Animated Series" The creator, Obie Scott Wade states:
"He's still a boy, just trapped in an outrageously flamboyant
superhero costume designed for a woman."
If this entry meets a loose interpretation of the guidelines,
shouldn't it at least be clarified in the entry? Thank you to all
involved with this site for all the extra work trying to make the
listings as thorough as possible. And thank you for allowing me to
state my opinion.
, 21 months, post #38 |
Thank you all for the clarifications and opinions.. and Holly for
I've marked the entry for deletion.
My apologies for holding the entry - based on what I viewed, I had
trouble ascertaining the extent of the TF. And those borderline
things can get tricky in the first place.
, 21 months, post #39 |
I would argue for the inclusion of the entry, as there is a
transformation of sorts even if it is not physical. He is essence
transforming into the identity of another person, and moreover,
this person is female and a superheroine. Other people see him as a
different person. In the guidelines, it clearly states that entries
"can also include things which are not true transformations but in
some way appear to be one." I think the entry should stay, given
that SheZow involves a boy becoming a female superheroine and
taking on that persona (even if not physically becoming a woman),
and given that the show seems popular among TG fans, many who use
From: Holly Dunn
, 21 months, post #40 |
One of the great things about this site is that when you're bored
you can go to some of the entry pages and search for materials. New
old stuff is getting added to Youtube and other similar sites all
I wasn't arguing for the inclusion or exclusion of Shezow as there
is some leeway. That is for the moderators to decide. My point was
that if it is included it should be labeled "Crossdressing"
prominently in the description.
TG is such a minor part in most entries, that when you search for
TG and get only crossdressing it is frustrating. The mods can
decide whether it merits inclusion, but if it does, please point
out that it is crossdressing.
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