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From: guest
, 122 months, post #21 |
Every man gay, straight, or bisexual would be curious about having
sex as a woman because they would be curious about vaginal
penetration.
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From: guest (lily the longwinded)
, 122 months, post #22 |
@Roger #20 -- we are off topic here.
You are correct, the passage is badly misedited. I linked to it for
the references at the end.
The Kahn mentioned was Fritz Kahn
. It appears to a reference -- cribbed from the footnotes in
Kinsey's Sexual Behavior in the Human male -- to Our Sex Life. Kahn
equated
(I am guessing "equalized" is an artifact of the the translation
of the book from the original german) orgasm to ejaculation. He
asserted the opposite of what Kinsey's surveys revealed; that is,
Kahn held that men could not be multi-orgasmic in the same way that
women sometimes are. Kinsey's research surveyed many men, most of
whom aggred with Kahn -- but some of whom reported "dry orgasms"
and an ability to achieve a second orgasm within a few minutes of
an ejaculatory orgasm.
This study
fromDunn and Trost reporst on 21 men who were demonstrably
multi-orgasmic.
This article
reports on a single multiply orgasmic male who was able to
demonstrate this capacity in the lab (while doctors drew blood to
measure his prolactin levels -- which must have been a pretty
strange day for the test subject)
This study
from Komisaruk et. al. also reports on a laboratory observation of
a single multi-orgasmic man.
It took some effort, but a technique that worked for me was to put
on very tight panties (a gaff). Rather than tucking, though, I'd
arranging myself so that the underside of my glans was pointed
outwards and against the fabric of the gaff. Then to use a
magic-wand vibrator (very powerful vibrations) against that spot to
bring myself off. I found that if I gritted my teeth through the
period of painfully intense sensitivity that followed the first
orgasm and held the vibrator in place I could bring myself off two
or three more times in rapid succession.
The tightness of the gaff made it easier to keep the vibrator on
the spot where the nerve endings clustered with greatest density. I
am not sure if this technique would be safe or recommended for
someone who is planning to keep his male genitalia intact, but my
short-lived experience as a multiply-orgasmic male is consistent
with the findings of the several researchers above, in falsifying
your assertion that this is something that is "not possible for a
man"
Back on topic -- sort-of, I am not sure I agree with the assertion
of the OP that posters to this board have been coy about addressing
the question of post-transformation sex.
I think that I have read (and helped to rat-hole) more than one
thread on this topic here.
The 48-hour time limit seems really short, though. "Liv(ing) as a
woman" is -- IMO -- more than being physically female. In fact,
most of being a woman has NOTHING to do with anatomy.
If you only had 48 hours in which to experience what it is to be female-bodied
, sex is pretty much all you'd have time for. The problem, of
course, is that it would likely take a LOT longer than 48 hours to
learn how to really enjoy sex with your new anatomy.
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From: guest
, 122 months, post #23 |
I think you would be selling yourself short if you could only have
sex during a 48 hour period as a woman. I think you could do a lot
in that time frame. You could go shopping, get your hair and nails
done, go out to eat and possibly to a club, maybe go swimming,
maybe have a night with an attractive man or woman, etc...
Lots of things you could do in 48 hours. With that being said, I
just wonder if a straight man that was placed in a straight woman's
body with her straight woman brain but had the essence of the
straight man would be able to figure out what he liked in that
straight woman's body? I mean would a straight man immediately
think guys are attractive once he is in that female body or would
it take time like in Lalola? Would the man fight those feelings and
his new biology or just accept it?
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From: guest (Lily buzzkill)
, 122 months, post #24 |
@guest #23 I think you could do a lot in that time frame. You could go
shopping, get your hair and nails done, go out to eat and possibly
to a club, maybe go swimming, maybe have a night with an attractive
man or woman, etc...
Lots of things you could do in 48 hours.
From the OP:
Assume you knew in advance that you would have just 48 hours to
live as a woman.
Would you undertake to have sex at least once during that time?.
Lets assume that this means that you are a man who will have 48
consecutive hours during which you will be physically transformed
into a woman after which you will be transformed back into a man
(rather than assuming that you are a woman with 48 hours to live),
Lets further stipulate that you will be a young, healthy, and
attractive woman and that you have sufficient advance notice of
this transformation and its details to purchase clothing, and to
acquire some kind of ID appropriate for your new persona ahead of
time.
Lets also assume that you can choose the timing of this event, so
you do it over a weekend.
You'll need some beauty sleep, but you decide to stay up all night
on the last day of the transformation -- so you start with 40
wakeful hours as a woman.
A trip to the hairdressers': Call that 3 hours for a wash and cut.
Longer if you want to experience the dubious pleasures of having
your hair colored or getting a permanent.
(You made the appointment before the transformation, but the girl
who took took the call forgot to write it in the book and she isn't
there when you show up. So you have to wait for the next available.
Of course, the hairdresser who is available to take walk-ins is new
and/or only renting a chair. He is free because he has no regulars,
and he has no regulars because he is terrible; slow, clumsy, and
incapable of understanding your very specific instructions).
Getting your "nails done". No idea what this means. A manicure can
be nice, but going to a nail salon is actually pretty unpleasant.
Lets assume you want acrylic extensions (because the magic couldn't
grow out your nails). Thats two hours in a smelly shop, having your
cuticles cut and pushed back and your fingers pulled and pinched,
dipped into various kinds of chemical baths, and stuck under
ultraviolet curing lights.
Shopping (I really don't get this one). You knew you were going to
be transformed, but maybe the rabbit vibrator you ordered didn't
come with batteries. You spend 3 hours at the mall (including the
time getting there and back on the bus). You go into Victoria's
Secret and try on a few cheaply-made and uncomfortable bras, and
get snark from the sales girl, before wandering over to the food
court for a Cinnabon.
"Swimming" you go to the local Y, buy a guest pass, get to see the
inside of the women's locker room. Swim a few laps. Check. 2 hours
down.
So that's about 10 hours of doing "girl stuff". 30 to go.
Dinner, and clubbing. Assuming you don't have a friend who could
act as an age- and gender-approriate escort, you will be on your
own. Its hard to estimate how much time you'd spend on this. If you
are lucky, have a good night, meet somebody, you might be out quite
late. Those nights are rare for most folks. You might not meet
anybody with whom you'd want to spend any time -- or who'd want to
spend an time with you.
Where I live (a fairly young and fairly hip city on the west coast,
with a pretty good nightlife) Happy hour starts at 3PM, last call
is around 1:30AM. But those hours aren't all equal. By 10PM you are
either out for the duration, or in for the night. So the casual
socializing window is --effectively -- 5 or 6 hours, from late
afternoon to late evening.
If you've timed it right, you've got one Friday night and one
Saturday night to experience what it is to be a woman out in the
world. If you are extraordinarily luck, you might meet someone
"nice" early enough in your magic weekend to go on a date.
Or, you could hit the meat market and pick someone who looks pretty
and smells good.
Both are fun ways to spend a weekend, but your odds of a good time
are much better on the meat market than they are on the coffee
shop/guitar bar/college pub scene.
the essence of the straight man...
Sounds like an advertisement for a "body spray". "New Axe
MetroPlus: The essence of the straight
man."
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From: cj
, 122 months, post #25 |
LOL - Sorry for the laughter lily, but that was great!
I'd still want to go shopping as a woman - but given just
48-hours... I don't know if it would be a high enough priority of
an experience for me to miss something else.
Of course, for me... I think I'd be out of town for the change -
nearest decent cities with enough activity and interest (and clubs
and shopping) are a two-hour drive for me - and I'd rather not
waste any time driving. Although, driving is a big part of my life,
so... Hmmmm
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From: guest
, 122 months, post #26 |
It's funny, but I had a conversation similar to this with a
coworker of mine just a few days ago. We were talking about random
stuff and I asked her, given the chance, would she become a guy for
24 hours. She looked at me and replied, "Of course I would. I'd
love to see what it's like to have a dick." This woman is Hispanic,
straight, average looking and in her late 20s. So then she of
course asked me if I'd become a woman for 24 hours, to which I
replied, "Yes, every guy wants to know what it feels like for a
woman." After that I asked her who she'd turn into, and after
naming a few celebrities I told her she had to pick someone who
wasn't famous. What shocked me was she said, "You know what, I'd be
you. I'd see if (another coworker of ours) really wants to fuck
you." The other coworker is also Hispanic, in her mid 20s, very
attractive and quite flirty. Something about the image of walking
in on my female coworker, transformed into me, nailing my other
coworker while she's bent over a desk was incredibly arousing.
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From: guest (Lily)
, 122 months, post #27 |
I'd still want to go shopping as a woman...
For what?
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From: cj
, 122 months, post #28 |
"For what?"
Things that I can't shop for as a guy (without looking weird).
Being able to try on clothing (while in a female body). But mostly,
just being out (very much in public) as a woman (without looking
like a dude in drag) and feeling the movement of my (now female)
body.
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From: guest
, 122 months, post #29 |
I think I would only spend maybe 2 or 3 hours with getting dolled
up and dressed up. I'm pretty sure I would dress up nice possibly
sexy but not slutty. I'd want to wear a dress skirt suit or some
type of finger tip length dress that was a little tight on the
figure. It would be nice to have a break from having to wear pants
and not have to worry about the butt or crotch part of my pants rip
or try to rip. I would just be nice and friendly to people and see
how they treated me in a womanly skin.
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From: guest (Lily)
, 122 months, post #30 |
@cj #28 Things that I can't shop for as a guy (without looking weird).
Being able to try on clothing ...
Fair enough. There have been times when the girly-girl stuff has
been fun. I only know about nail salons because a friend asked me
to be in her wedding, and the matron of honor required us all to
have our nails done. It was fun day out with women I like. It was a
new experience for most of us, and we had a good time with it. I
went back twice; once to have the nails shortened and refilled,
then to have the tips removed. It was on those subsequent visits
that I decided that I was never going to do that again.
I like going to my hairdresser, but it is because I really like my
hairdresser. She lives a few blocks away from me and her shop is
right in the neighborhood I've known her for years. I've gotten to
know some of her other customers. I like the company there. She is
a one-woman show, so there are times when I can't get in to see her
and have to go another salon. On those occasions, at another salon,
with a new cutter, getting my hair "done" turns into a chore.
Clothes shopping just doesn't thrill me. I think my early
experiences clothes shopping, when I didn't always pass well
enough, or when I had to deal with shopkeepers and salespeople who
were not cool with my presentation or presence, might have
something to do with that.
I can, I think, sympathize with the "being out (very much in
public)" part. Going out as a woman, during the day, on the street,
the first few times was terrifying and exciting. Mostly terrifying,
if I can trust my recall. But, this is another of those things that
I think would take time to learn to enjoy. Its really hard to
imagine what it would be like with the Cinderella time-limit. If
you were given your dream-body, but had two days to flaunt it,
where would you go?
I am still thinking I'd go someplace where I could cruise. There
was a bar -- what we used to call a "women-only space" -- that I
frequented for a while. There was a pick-up/hook-up scene there In
which I was never, really, able to participate. If that bar still
existed, and I could be in a body of my own specifications, I'd be
there looking for trouble.
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From: cj
, 122 months, post #31 |
"Clothes shopping just doesn't thrill me."
If the TF/swap was for more than 48-hours, I'm sure that after the
novelty wore off, I would probably feel the same way (not thrilled)
for the most part. If I had to shop as a woman for the rest of my
life - the sheer work of having to shop around just to find things
that fit correctly, and having to sort through the sheer masses
(pun intended) of styles and cuts and fabrics to find something
that I liked / looked right for whatever occasion... and having to
have so many different outfits for so many different occasions -
would rather diminish the thrill I would feel from those first few
times.
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